Getting the right Holy trainer 2 ring size!

I was an idiot.

My old cheap Chinese chastity cage had a 45mm diameter ring so I assumed that's what I needed from Holy Trainer. I didn't bother following their sizing instructions.

Holy Trainer 2 rings are... oval. 

Months later a short stint back in the old device,  I realized I needed something tighter. I compared the two rings and found -- to my horror -- that the ring of the old device fitted into the new one. What was going on?

The answer, of course, is that the Holy Trainer 2 rings are... oval. The measurement they use to describe them is across the shortest distance!

On its own the circumference doesn't tell us much, it's the cross section that matters.

You can get the area of an oval using the following calculation:

Area = Pi * A * B

Assuming all the Holy Trainer rings have the same proportions as my original 45mm HT2 ring, you get the following areas:

040 - 1396 mm squared

045 - 1766 mm squared

050 - 2181 mm squared

Old style circular rings like on my Chinese chastity cage are of course Pi * R * R. This gives us:

40mm - 1256 mm squared 

45mm - 1590 mm squared 

50mm - 1963 mm squared 

They are all a bit tighter than the Holy Trainer equivalent. The take home here is follow the manufacturer's instructions and measure your tackle with a bit of string!

However I can tell you from personal experience that a 45mm circular ring fits me comfortably and that my most comfortable Holy Trainer 2 ring is the 040. Your mileage may vary...

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My (positive) experience of Holy Trainer customer service

The FLR equivalent of a wedding ring.

A couple of weeks back, my Holy Trainer 2 broke. The top of the locking post sheared away. This seems to be the most common failure mode for the HT2 so perhaps it's a design flaw that makes it vulnerable to small variations in casting etc. It's still a lot better than having the tube split!

I was... bereft. It was like losing a wedding ring.

You have to understand that -- aside from not being escape proof -- the Holy Trainer 2 is like a fantasy chastity device. It lies so naturally and fits so comfortably that it's easy to forget it's locked around your gentials. The Chinese chastity device I used to wear was value for money, but was a bit like having a disability since it caused low-grade discomfort and required constant tinkering with lotions etc. The Holy Trainer 2, in contrast, is like having an implant.

This happened in the early hours of the morning. I found myself lying awake next to Xena feeling naked and wondering if I dare rummage for the metal device.

First thing in the morning, I logged on and emailed the Holy Trainer people. I have seen a couple of postings on forums complaining about HT customer service, so I didn't hold out much hope. Since I don't think we can afford a new device, I started having desperate thoughts of just gluing the whole thing together permanently...

I was very relieved indeed when they got back to me within a couple of hours asking for a picture of the break. I supplied that and my replacement tube went out that night, to arrive a few days later.

(In the mean time, out of desperation, I tried to fix the damage using quick drying epoxy resin.  It's evil stuff, but didn't bond during the 3 hours specified on the packet. However, I've just checked and a week or so in the cupboard does seem to have made the repair solid. So it turns out that you can glue bioresin.)

Summing up: my experience of the Holy Trainer customer service is 100% positive. Five stars to the Swiss kinksters!

UPDATE: A tumblr user with a broken ring. http://rohosub.tumblr.com/post/139158738854/ht-broke-again

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Pamela Mask reviews the Holy Trainer 2

Reposted with permission:

Holy Trainer Version 2: I bought this one recently (2 months ago). I was actually shopping around for a metal device, and got an email from the HT manufacturer that they had a new improved Holy Trainer with integrated locking mechanism. After a couple of emails with the manufacturer (very fast and courteous responses) I decided to order it. Got it in a few days, tried it on and immediately felt the improvements.  

The new locking mechanism is very well designed. First it holds the ring and tube solidly together and in place. There is virtually no "play" or ability to move the tube away from the ring, or side-to-side, in spite of the device being plastic. When locked in place it feels very much like one solid and secure device. 

As others have said the comfort level is as good as can be expected for any ring/tube type device. A second big benefit is the elimination of the external padlock. It so much nicer without having that padlock clicking, poking and moving around all the time. 

The internal lock also eliminates the mechanical "play" introduced by the padlock, resulting in better comfort and security. I had become so accustomed to the unpleasant aspects of the padlock that it is taking some time to get used to it not being there (a good thing every time I realize its not there). 

Anyway, Holy Trainer Version 2 is the best device I have experienced to date. I'll post another update after I've done a longer chastity term in it (which should be soon).

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Holy Trainer 2 Review: 42nd night in the Swiss bioresin chastity device

The chastity, the denial (the beating tonight)
-- all Xena's idea. I guess she's not very
vanilla anymore...

Tonight will be my 42nd night in the Holy Trainer 2 chastity device!

That's two stints of 21 nights each with a three day gap in the middle.

During this time, I haven't been wearing 24/7 - I'm just not comfortable with taking part in sport or hanging out with friends while wearing. However, I have worn the Holy Trainer during the day unless socializing or attending meetings and interviews.

Psychologically, it's be interesting. Since this is pretty much Xena's idea, instead of feeling like a guilty pleasure, locking up morning and night has become routine, and wearing a pleasant duty.

Physically, I have a constant background tingling in my penis and a certain weight in my balls. That's also from over 90 days of denial, again Xena's idea.

Beyond that, there's nothing to report. No discomfort, no chafing, no sore spots, no burning sensations. The Holy Trainer 2 remains diabolically comfortable.

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Odd awakening in chastity

This morning, I woke to an odd sensation in my groin.

Why is there no sensation in my penis? 

What's that gripping feeling around my balls?

Of course I was still locked into my Holy Trainer 2. It's very easy to forget it's there.

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6 things I'd like to see in the Holy Trainer 3

So far my experience of the Holy Trainer 2 has been fantastic! It's a lockable second skin that doesn't let you get an erection.

However, there is technology I'd love to see in the Holy Trainer 3. Here it is in reverse order of plausibility.

1. More sizes!
   Especially smaller. 
2. More colors!
   Especially realistic skin tones.
3. Regular plastic if that's tougher!
   Though it's nice, there's no need to bother with the bio-resin. Plastic is fine as long as its tough.
4. Built-in time lock! 
   Nice if this were clockwork, but digital would do. This would get around the whole self bondage shenanigans, and also be great fun for the key-holder since a sentence would be irrevocable.
5. Pull-out detector!
   No ball trap device can be 100% secure without piercings. However, it must be possible to devise something that detects pullout. This could be as simple as a spring-loaded button that blocks the tube if you pull your dick out, or as complicated as an electronic gizmo that beeps and flashes randomly and doesn't stop until the device is unlocked.
6. Blue-tooth bio monitor telemetry thingy!
   Let's have a magic button that provides telemetry to the keyholders, especially detecting tumescence and emission.

However, while I'm waiting for the future to come along, I'll "enjoy" my Holy Trainer 2.

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Installing your Holy Trainer 2 chastity device

All pictures borrowed from
the Holy Trainer website

UPDATED 29 May. Skip to Step 6 to see the new Easy Method.

To say that the Holy Trainer 2 is snug is probably an understatement. It's as close to what you'd get if you dipped your dick in molten plastic and let it set in place (but without the trip to the ER!).

One it's on, you'll easily forget you're wearing it. Sleeping is no problem, nor does it get in the way of work or (most) exercise.

However that snugness makes it just  a little bit hard to "install" properly the first few times. Once you have the hang of it, it goes on as easily as a tight pair of jeans.

The instructions on the site are well illustrated  (I'm going to borrow them here), but not quite detailed enough, so I've written some new ones.

Before you begin

You need a Holy Trainer 2 that fits snugly. This means that the tube should be the same length or slightly shorter than your flaccid penis, thus ensuring your peehole lines up with the slot. (If you fit the DHGATE A080, then the smaller Holy Trainer 2 is for you.) The base ring needs to be tight but not insanely tight. Measure and experiment before ordering.

When you get your device, check for any sharp edges and corners. I don't mean sharp as in "slice your dick sharp"! However the downside of the precise molding is that some of the corners can feel spiky. You can fix this with a fine file or sandpaper. Don't go crazy, just take the edge down a tiny amount and test with your tongue.

To get the device on you need a few minutes of privacy somewhere warm and either body-friendly lotion or a nice shower. (Showering and then drying is surprisingly easy in the Holy Trainer 2.)

Step 1: Lube the device or shower it and yourself

Lightly moisturize you genitals, or else shower yourself and the device then rinse off thoroughly.

Step 2: Get your balls through the base ring

Yes, this is likely to happen the first time
you put on your Holy Trainer

Pull some scrotum (your sack) through the ring, then push one ball at a time through from behind.

The ring should feel tight but not torture.

Step 3: Get your cock through the base ring

If you got hard, wait until you've calmed down a bit (the body seems to get used to this, so after a while your erection will go away on contact with the ring).

Hook the fingers of one hand back through the ring so as to protect the cock from the corners of the locking assembly.

With the other hand, if you can, push the head of the penis into the shaft as if turning your cock inside out (ewww), then push it down into the ring.

Finally pull your penis through and push the ring back so it is seated properly.

Step 4: Install the penis tube

Either lube up the tube or give it as quirt from the shower. Angle it down to avoid nipping and carefully slide it into place .

You will notice that your dick isn't anywhere near the end of the tube. Don't worry, we'll come to that.

Step 5: Lock the device

This can be hard unless you know how, after which it becomes easy.

The trick is to firmly pinch the device between your fingers (on the tube ring) and the thumb (on the tube) so that the two parts are pusher together in the correct alignment.

The magic locking thingy should slide in easily. If it doesn't slide in easily, change your grip! Don't force the locker in.

Step 6: Position your penis inside the chastity tube

When I first tried this using a Q-tip, I ended up stabbing myself in the urethra! However, after a while I came up with a better system. Here it is:

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If you are in the shower, turn the output to cold and squirt the water up the inside of the tube, thus shrinking your dick. Tug the scrotum to make sure the ring is positioned against the body. Tilt the tube up as if you were having an erection and shake to unstick your dick. At the same time push the tube gently down the shaft. 

Repeat until the head of your dick is firmly lodged against the inside of the tip of the device. 

EASY METHOD: If you are not showering (or after showering), get a rounded-headed Q-tip and insert it through the front slot down the side of your penis. (Do not push it into your urethra/pee-hole!).

Now roll the Q-tip between finger and thump, walking the head all the way around your penis between skin and tube. Do this a couple of times and the shaft becomes unstuck and the head pops into place.

Enjoy!

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Showering in your Holy Trainer 2

Since I am now under orders to wear my chastity device whenever practical, I thought I had better test out showering in it.

So, this morning I took a shower in my Holy Trainer 2.

It was a proper shower.

I soaped my man-parts and used the shower-head to squirt water up the tube. I can't speak for the earlier version, but the Version 2 showed no signs of softening in the heat, just a slight tackiness to the surface.

I dried, using the hair drier on my genitals (low setting). I had to take some care over the angle between cock and balls, since that's one spot that doesn't get air circulation. I also blew cool air direct into the tube, which circulated well enough.

The scrotum seemed to look after itself! Unlike with my Chinese device, there was no need to pull the skin back and forward to removed trapped water from the A-ring; the Holy Trainer's plastic seems to repel water.

Then I started my morning routine of chasing contracts.

It was as simple as that--

--which kind of surprised me. I did not expect a tube chastity device to be quite so practical.

A few hours later, I removed the tube to take a look. Everything was dry.

I've no idea if other middle range devices are as good as this. However, it seems to me that the Holy Trainer 2 is fine for showering in, and so suitable for longer term 24/7 wear.

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Holy Trainer 2 Review: 5 nights sleeping in chastity

"I used to feel I had to ask your permission to belt up before sleep," I remark as I give Xena her pre-sleep backrub.

51 days of denial mean that I get hard just touching her skin... of course the Holy Trainer doesn't let me get an erection. Earlier rubbing her feet I went into a kind of fugue state and she gave me a demerit.

"Now," I continue, "I feel I have to ask your permission not to belt up."

It is not always easy to settle down to sleep in a chastity device
when you're sharing the bed with a beautiful woman you love.

"Too right," says Xena.

"So," I continue, risking pushing a little. "I've been wearing the Holy Trainer most nights, but what are the rules?"

"Where it whenever it's needed," says my wife.

I chuckle. "You need to be more specific than that."

"At night," says Xena. "Otherwise you might masturbate - which is how this all started."

"What? Oh." This is news to me. "And during the day when on my own?"

"Yes," says Xena.

"OK," I say, and I can say OK because the so far the Holy Trainer has been no trouble at all.

No period of adjustment, no chafing or teething troubles.

I could have taken it straight out of the box when it
arrived, cleaned it and installed it and just left it on!

I honestly believe I could have taken it straight out of the box when it arrived, cleaned it and installed it and just left it on!

So that's how we've lived for the last five days.

I wear the Holy Trainer each night, take it off to go to the local gym, then belt up for the rest of the day unless I have some evening sporting activity. I'm not wearing 24/7, but I'm more in than out and I've slept five nights in the device.

It is not always easy to settle down to sleep in a chastity device when you're sharing the bed with a beautiful woman you love! Sometimes I just have to lie there and squirm, waves of lust rippling out from my trapped penis.

Even so, I have generally slept very soundly indeed.

For a start - with a good snug fit - answering the call of nature is no problem. If the head of my cock is squished against the end of the tube, then the slit is aligned with the slot. I don't even have to look. No messing around with Q-tips and endless handfuls of toilet paper.

The snugly fitting tube lies quite naturally against the balls, meaning that everything is where it normally is. There's no need to lie in an odd position;  I can even lie on my front! There's also no need to wear briefs to provide support (it helps that the Holy Trainer is really light), and no padlock to clunk around, getting in the way and unbalancing things. The A-ring also conforms to the body. Mostly I hardly know it's there.

In general, erections are no problem. The tube format means no bars to dig into the sensitive penis head or to chafe my shaft. The erection remains pointed down, there's no sense that the device is going to slide off.

The Holy Trainer doesn't prevent morning wood, but nor does it turn it into a physical torture. My penis inflates so strongly that the Holy Trainer ends up perched over the head like one of those penicap devices! Even so, the device remains in place and, more importantly, there's no pain. I remember being woken up with by the Chinese, feeling like my cock was being forced through a colander while a gorilla was trying to rear off my balls. No so the Holy Trainer. The sensation is odd, and tight, but not painful. EDIT: Smaller ring appears to fix morning wood problem.

So, when I'm turned on, the Holy Trainer is there, trapping, restraining, sealing, but never hurting. When I'm relaxed and sleepy, it's just a comforting presence around my genitals. I sleep soundly and wake refreshed and perhaps a little smug.

(I would like very much to wear the device for 24 hours solid some time soon, and I certainly plan to test having a shower while wearing it.)

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Xena whimsically puts off my release yet another day!

"49 days!" I gasped.

Last night I was rubbing Xena's feet and the clock passed midnight. "49 days!" I gasped.

Xena didn't even look up from her book.

Suddenly the enormity of it hit me. I got suddenly very, very hard inside my new Holy Trainer. (An odd sensation, different from the cage, but the plastic held, thank god!) I groaned, writhed as best I could kneeling.

"Keep rubbing my feet," said Xena.

I had a sensation like a bead forcing its way out of my head and the pressure eased. I went back to her feet. Later doing my ablutions, I found I had leaked a little precum.

Happy and contented, I slept well and woke triumphant; the Holy Trainer is the first device I've had that is no problem at night.

Triumph quickly turned to disaster.

I unlocked and dashed off to a sporting activity leaving the kitchen a mess, and no milk in the fridge. Worse some of the lads and their wives were due to come by for lunch, meaning Xena had to tidy up before we arrived.

I learned all this when she rang me to complain. However, she did not hand out any demerits.

I hate that! Without demerits, I'm just a henpecked husband who doesn't get any sex.

Tonight, before I did the kitchen I apologized... not in a theatrical way, just said sorry for leaving everything like that. Xena said that the worst of it was having to drink her tea black.

Finally I cracked. "You didn't give me any demerits."

Xena's eyes blazed, half amused, half triumphant. "Well you can have five - one for milk, four for the kitchen."

"Ouch!" I click the counter, bringing it up to 39. I'm not looking forward to the whipping, but her power over me makes my cock rear.

"Will we do demerits tonight?" I ask.

"I'm not really in a demerit mood," says Xena.

"But if I don't get whipped, then I don't get to come," I say, sounding rather plaintive. This is all getting too real.

Xena smiles sweetly. "Too bad," she says.

As I tidy the kitchen, I realize for the hundredth time that this is how it works. Xena is no sort of service top. It's only satisfying for her if it is real, meaning she's always going to push things just beyond what I would consent to and, because of my kink, there is nothing I can do about it.

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Holy Trainer 2.0 (2014) Review: First impressions

"Omigod I never want to take this thing off!"
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"Omigod I never want to take this thing off!"

I'm looking at myself in the mirror. The new Holy Trainer, a "gift" from Xena, sits on my genitals like it belongs.

The absence of a padlock makes it at once more pleasing on the eye and more scary. It also has a designed rather than engineered feel.

Later that evening I show it to my wife.

"It looks pretty good," she says.
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"It looks pretty good," she says.

It's the first time my wife has said anything positive about the various chastity devices I've worn and her praise makes me want to preen.

So, OK, it passes the aesthetics test. It does look good.

What else? Mostly everything Thumper said in his review of the earlier version of the Holy Trainer.

I can pee standing up while wearing the Holy Trainer with no problem. I took Thumper's advice and went for the smaller version so that it was snug. The head of my dick generally fits the end nicely and the slit lines up with the slot. If I'm a bit shriveled due to the British climate, I can press the tube in towards my body and the slit automatically lines up.

It's comfortable, scarily "you never need take this off ever again" comfortable. Smooth contours and snug fit mean that it's pretty much what you'd get if you - God forbid! - daubed your dick with plastic; it lies naturally, neither sticking out too much nor squishing your balls into an odd shape. I slept the night in it with no problem, and no morning wood grief.

The small version is sized just about the same as the A080 Chinese device from DHGate, though it fits more snugly and lies better.

EDIT: Be careful with ring sizing.

It's secure; not escape proof, because ball traps aren't but the snug fit, the shape of the tube, the raised and forward position of the A-ring, and a neat little projection at the opening, make it proof against casual fingers and probably impossible to escape when hard. The slot at the end is just wide enough for hygiene, but short enough to prevent stimulation of the underside of the head of the penis.

Will it break or chafe? I suspect not. However, only time will tell. Longer review next week, I think.

EDIT: It did break, three times! Twice the company replaced the device. If you are only using the device from time to time, it's still a pretty good deal. However, you might want to wait for the Holy Trainer 3. 
UPDATE: The replacement is fine after nearly 6 months, so I suspect they've fixed their materials.

Other Reviews of the Holy Trainer Chastity Device

• Holy Trainer modified to take a PA piercing.
• Pierced Prince reviews the clear Holy Trainer 2 on Reddit.
• Chastity Teen reviews the Holy Trainer 2.
• Thumper reviews the Holy Trainer 1.
• Melina's Toy Holy Trainer (1) vs CB600 review.
• Forum thread asking for Holy Trainer 2 reviews.
• Lots of pictures of men in Holy Trainer Chastity devices.
• Man wearing Holy Trainer 2 clear.
• Ruffled Sheets, UK sex blogger on the Holy Trainer 2.
• Denying Thumper on the Holy Trainer 2.
• bb55ct's review of the Holy Trainer 2

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